Transcript of “Rights Here, Rights Now” – Advance Directives with Dana Traynum

 

 

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[Enter host, Suzanne Herbst.]

 

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[Enter, Virginia Pharis & Suzanne Herbst, once again]:

 

[Suzanne]:                              Today on the podcast we have the delightful Dana Traynham. One                                                 of our senior staff attorneys here at disability Law Center of VA, &                                                             she is going to be talking to us all about advance directives!

 

[Virginia]:                               Yes. You all have been clamoring for it, we promised it, and                       now we're finally making good on it! It's advance directive day,                         baby!

 

[Suzanne]:                              But before we jump in, let’s check out Disability in the News!

 

Disability Rights Florida, the NAACP, and five students and their families  in Palm Beach Florida sued the public school system there last week over their practice of forcing students with disabilities to undergo mental health exams at psych facilities. School employees including school police officers regularly seized children for involuntary examinations in psych facilities after displaying misconduct that often stemmed from their disabilities. The school district claimed use of the Baker Act, which gives police, judges, and mental health professionals the power to require people to undergo mental health exams if they appear to be suffering from a mental illness and there is a likelihood that they could cause serious harm to themselves or others. Often times professionals utilized this act to commit these students with disabilities, though they often times did not meet any of the Act’s criteria. Between 2016 an 2020 the school district involuntarily committed 1217 students, including 254 elementary school students. The lawsuit is ongoing but those filing the suit are calling for the families to be  financially compensated and the school district to halt any illegal use of the Baker Act and for more appropriate training for staff.      

 

[Enter, one more time, our honored guest, Dana Traynham]

 

 

[Suzanne]:                  All right- we are joined [here] once again, by the lovely Dana Trayham! Are you a Senior Staff Attorney??

 

[Dana]:                        Yes. But it doesn't mean I’m old.

 

 

[Suzanne]:                  Ok, all right, yes-  You don't get any [Senior] discounts. J

 

[Virginia]:                   I was gonna say, if Dana’s NOT a Senior Staff, and (she is!), then, I don’t know who we have…who IS a Senior Staff Attorney?

 

[Suzanne]:                  Who else would be? Dana for some reason has returned to speak with his once again, in what I like to think of as the finale of our [Advance Directive] “Trilogy”

 

                                    Where we began with looking over the free Britney movement. And then, we talked about the film, I Care a Lot and now here we are talking about some alternatives to the things you saw there.

 

 

[Virginia]:                   It really is the Return of the King, of the advance directives! [LOL!]

 

 

[Dana]:                        Yeah. It’s the Return of the QUEEN!

 

[Virginia]:                   Yes, the…the Return of the Queen. The queen is Dana. J

 

 

 

[Dana]:                        Yes, I am a Queen. And I am glad we’re here to talk about how to avoid avoid being in Britney's shoes or in the character shoes in, I care a lot because I think that's a great way to end the trilogy. I would NEVER WANT MY LIFE to ever become a Netflix movie.

 

 

 

[Suzanne]:                  That’s true. I feel like feel like a lot of those aren't, like, “Let me tell you about how amazing my life was- Everything went great.” It’s always a tragedy based thing. [Laughter.] But, let's go ahead, and dig into the meat of this episode. SO, Dana, for our eagle-eyed listeners-- they may have noticed this is titled advance directives. And, that's the way the other one of the ways you can sort of avoid the situations that we've talked about in the previous two episodes. So: What is an advance directive?

 

[Dana]:                       An advance directive is… is a document, or, I think of it, as a tool that we can use to plan for the future. Or, any time that we may become incapacitated because of illness or injury—And, by incapacitated, I mean unable to make our own decisions. Unable, because we you know either we lived to the ripe old age of a hundred and three and then get Dementia. Or, we are in a bad car accident and we have a traumatic brain injury, that leaves us either temporarily or permanently with a brain injury….[..] Or, the effects of the brain injury, I should say, or unable to make her own decisions and at any time right that could happen to any of us at any time and so nobody likes to think about that and may say things like, “Well, I'm young, you know, I don't have to worry about that right now.” Or, you know, “I'm healthy I don't have to worry about that right now.” And, you have not planned for future incapacity. It's not too early to plan. You know… [..] we might be… (in a situation) where, our life ends up in court, before a judge, and that judge then appoints someone to make our decisions for us. Who may not be the person you want!! [So] There's a long-winded answer to your question.

 

[Virginia]:                   So, let's break this down step-by-step: A lot of the stuff you're talking about, sounds like some other formats of support decision-making that we've already touched on. Very briefly. How is an advance directive different from a power of attorney? Or, is it different from a power of attorney?

 

[Dana]:                        You’re right, Virginia. There are a lot of words that we used interchangeably, um. But, they actually do have different meetings. So by advance directive, I mean: If I were doing this in person, I'd be doing the interpretive dance of an umbrella! [LOL!] So, just imagine, Dana doing an interpretive dance of an umbrella. J An advance directive is a general term for this advance planning that I just talked about. Under that umbrella, are different portions of that advanced plan. So, you mention power of attorney- that is a part of an advance directive. With the power of attorney, I can choose who makes decisions for me in the future when an incapacitated and cannot do so for myself. So I may say I'm going to make my own decisions [when] I have capacity… until I don't. And when I don't have capacity, anymore and somebody else needs to step in and make decisions for me, then, I want Hannah to be that person. And I can take it a step further and say, if Hannah is not available, or willing, or able, maybe because, say, she was in the same car accident as me, then, I [can] choose Virginia to do that. And then, you know, [say if] Virginia is not available, then I pick Suzanne. Okay? So, that's a power of attorney. I can choose who steps in and makes decisions for me? Who is my voice at a time when I'm not able to be myself? Other parts of an advance directive, other things that fall under that umbrella, include a medical directive. Under medical directive, I can put in writing decisions I'm making now, for the future, about any type of my medical decisions. I can say: What doctors I want to work with, or don't want to work with; which hospital that I want to go to, or don't want to go to, medications that I give consent for right now, or, medications that I refuse. I can write what works for me in a crisis situation. How can you support me during a crisis? How do I feel, about things like: chemotherapy, dialysis, electric shock, [therapy] CT (scans)? Anything that's important to me in medical care I can put it in writing now, that's called a medical directive.

                                   

                                    So: so far, under the umbrella, we have power of attorney medical directive and, there’s another one that’s what’s called…a living will. And, in a living will, I can put, basically, the two choices are in very general terms: whether I want life support, at the end of my life, to keep me going, and, to keep me alive as long as possible? Or, do I want to be kept comfortable, but not, artificially, kept alive, by machines? That's called a living will. You can also put, in your advance directive, your choices, and decisions, about organ donation. We have many ways in Virginia to indicate that we want to be organ donors. An advance directive is one of them. And finally, with an A.D., you can have a Ulysses Claus- Which says that: [I think we talked about the U Clause in another podcast…but I’ll go over it a little bit here] in the U. clause, it says: “If I no longer have the capacity to make my own decisions, then when the person I’ve chosen to make my decisions for me—in this case, Hannah—would be able to make decisions, even at my objection. Because, the thought behind that, is: Right now, I have to pass this on, to somebody. And, I'm able to say: This is how I want to be treated. and if I get to a future time when I don't have capacity, then I don’t want to go back on that! I want to go with the decision I made when I was doing well, and stable, in my past. That’s the reasoning behind the Ulysses Claus. So all of those parts make up an advance directive. Now that’s healthcare. I could do the same thing with financial, I could do a power of attorney for financial care, I can even make financial decisions for education. I can make financial decisions if…if I am still in secondary school. And I have an IEP, for special education. I can have a power of attorney, if I am between the ages of 18 and graduating. And if I want to give my parents the same rights that they had before I turned eighteen, I can even do an educational power of attorney. All of those things are what I can do to plan for the future I could protect my health care decisions I can protect my financial decisions and I can protect my education. So all of those things are things I can do to plan for the future. I can protect my healthcare decisions, financial decisions, […] etc.

 

                                   

 

[Suzanne]:                  One thing we've talked about a lot in our last episodes together his guardianship. So, tell me about how an advanced directive is different than guardianship.

 

[Dana]:                        It is night and day. Pretty much, for guardianship. Let’s first start with a similarity. Let’s get that out of the way. A similarity

                                    is: Whether you have a guardianship, or, --you're under a-- you have a power of attorney, and, you do not have capacity someone else is making decisions for you. And, that's going to happen, right? If I am in the hospital, and I cannot make a decision, or, communicate my decision, someone's going to have to make decisions for me. The decision has to be given for medical care. If I have a guardian, that person will be doing it. If I have an advance directive, then, the person I chose will be making those decisions for me. Whether it's my first, second, or third, choice, right? That person is making decisions for me. If I don't have any of those things, then, we can talk about that later. But, there is a mechanism in the law for that, as well. But, the fact of the matter is, if I don't have capacity somebody is so that's guardian or power of person and a power of attorney so that's pretty much the only similarity here are the differences in a power of attorney. [For instance]In a power of attorney, I choose who that person or persons were going to be he was going to be making decisions for me I hold the power for that I make I decide who's going to make it I can decide what decisions they can and cannot make for me and I can also fire that person in the future if I have capacity I can decide you know let's make it a happy story: Hannah goes to live in Africa and run Wildlife Rehabilitation Center, right? Then I don't want her to be my guardian- she can't be reached- so, and, Virginia and I just don't get along, as well as we have been the past. And Suzanne's now my best friend, so I want Suzanne to be my number one…-

 

 

[Suzanne]:                  Everything’s coming up Suzanne! J [LOL!]

 

[Dana]:                        That's right- I handled it pretty well, didn't I? [S: Yes, you did!] So, anyway I can make changes to my power of attorney anytime. I don't have to get anybody else's approval, I don't have to go to court, and probably, the most important thing is, I don't have to include a lawyer. And even the lawyers will tell you (and say), that keeping lawyers out of your life is usually a good thing! So, the same thing when I write the power of attorney. To start with, I don't have to have an attorney to write it. I don't have to go to court, to have them okay it, so I'm I hold all the power, right? In the in the advance directive, when I go to court, and someone wants to be my guardian, because, when I remove Virginia as number two, as my power of attorney, she (then) decided she want to go to court. Because [she’s] my guardian, if that were to happen, I lose all control. So that's the biggest difference is that when I use an advance directive in any of those, in any of the parts and pieces, I can do every part I mentioned, OR, I could do just the power of attorney it's kind of an a la carte system- I can choose what I want, to use what works for me. I have the power- if I go to court, and, a guardian is appointed, I have no power. We saw that in the Brittany Case, we saw that in I Care a Lot, once a guardian is appointed pretty much all my power, and, my power over my own life, is gone. So like I said, they are night and day.

 

[Virginia]:                   Okay, so Dana I'm on board! You’ve sold me. You did slander my character to get back into to Suzanne’s good graces, but I will forgive it. J So, you know, I'm ready to put together an advance directive: Who can who can make an advance directive? First of all, like, who is eligible to actually make the document? And technically, who can they get to help them?

 

 

[Dana]:                        Anybody over the age of 18 that is in Virginia, that is presumed to have capacity and that's the only requirement for who can do an advance directive. So, that means, anybody under the age of 18 cannot do one. And, anybody who already has a guardian appointed cannot do one. Because they've already been deemed to not have capacity. Other adults can do an advanced directive, and I mean, any, it's regardless of disability. I can do whatever anybody can do. [For] (filling out) an advance directive, there is a wonderful website you go to dlcv. Org and search for supported decision-making, under resources videos, and, fact sheets. And, the thing I'm most excited about there are some ‘do-it-yourself,’ forms, with line by line instructions.  We have one for just the power of attorney, because that's what, you know, the majority of people use- is the power of attorney. So we have one that's for that. And then, we have one that's for all the entire advance directives, all those pieces and parts, that we talked about, and, put under the umbrella. And there are line-by-line instructions that’ll walk you through the process. And tell you how to fill in the lines. And, if you need more assistance than that, you can call our office, Dlcv, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, and speak to our intake specialist, and you can either get more information from a subject matter expert on this particular topic, or we also have a project in place this year to help folks, if they cannot fill that out for themselves. So, we may be able to help you in that way. We also, in Virginia, have trained peer facilitators for folks in the mental health community,

 

[Virginia]:

You can go to it, it is virginiaadvancedirective.org

 

[Dana]:

There, you will be able to see if your area has any trained facilitators. Also, when I was filling out mine years ago, I had some questions about how I felt about some of the things a living will. Particularly about artificial feeding, that sort of thing, when you're at the end of your life. And I went to my local hospital, I wasn’t a patient there at the time, and the doc was able to talk some things through with me. I was able to figure out, you know, what I want to do, what decision I want to make, regarding that. They can talk to you about that stuff. Your doctor can answer questions, other folks (too), if your doctors, Healthcare Provider, Nurse Practitioner, or nurse, through the community services board, or another organization, they may be able to help you.

                                   

 

[Suzanne]:                  I don't want to get too excited but I think I heard you say this earlier and from this explanation you've just given us I think I have it right do I not need a lawyer to make an advance directive?

 

[Dana]:                        [Correct!] You do not need a lawyer to write an advance directive that is correct speaking as a lawyer and I'm not putting down the layers but I hesitate to send folks especially with developmental disabilities she will wear who doesn't have any expertise in that area because their idea of capacity to do this document may be very different from my idea of capacity.

 

[Dana]:                        And, that’s I like about the phones on our website and yes I did create them. I tried to use English as much as possible, and not the “lawyer English,” that people don't understand; I try to make it as understandable as possible. There are some words that are just in there because they kind of have to be, but, for the most part… I tried to write it so that people would understand it. You know, we don't have to have advance directives that [use words like] […] ‘whereas,’ or all of those words that make a document cost more. If you're so inclined, and, Virginia doesn’t have, the form that has to be used for magic words-- that have to be used—If so, you can write it yourself. You can look at other forms and decide what you like and don't like and pick and choose, which is kind of what I did, when I did mine. I looked at a lot of different ones online, and, created from the different lawyer.

 

[Virginia]:

I understand not wanting to involve a lawyer; I think that's fantastic. But if I don't have a voice, OR, if my advance directive doesn’t say ‘whereas’ at least once, then: How is anyone supposed to know it's a legal document?

 

 

[Diana]:                       In Virginia, there is only really one requirement to make it a legal document and that is that is signed in the presence of two witnesses. So, when I sign my power of attorney when I have it done the way I want to have it done ,and I'm ready to sign- it I have to sign it in front of two people. I say this isn't a requirement under the law, BUT, this is Dana's advice: Is that, those two people not be people that are named in the document. I always think that it's better that everybody has one job. Because, if you start giving people more than one job as an agent, and at the same time, at the same time, okay,- So, I can't sign my document, and then tomorrow, go and ask somebody to witness it! Okay, we have to be in the room at the same time. And they have to be with us, together; So, the question I usually get at this point is: what about a notary? [And], Virginia law does not require your advance directive to be notarized! I do, however, recommend it. And, Virginia, just like you said, whereas, when it has a whereas at the beginning, especially when it’s in all caps-- I mean whereas in all caps it's it's obviously a legal document right? Notarisation- if it has a notary stamp on it, (then), boy it must be real right?!? [Legal.] It looks more official- it looks more legal- the fact of the matter is it's not. But, it does have that appearance, and sometimes, that helps with notoriety, when people honor it without notoriety- you know that, other states out there do require that it be notarized. So if I'm traveling to a state that requires it to be notarized, and I should pick a state, that I know requires it, but, I don't know where it is…so let's just say that I'm going to ‘anyware,’ ‘state of anywhere,’ and they required it to be notarized and I'm vacationing there, in Anywhere Beach, and I get injured, and I go to the hospital -and they have to use my advance directive- it's not notarized, but they require it it's going to slow it down a little bit, because they will honor it because it's legal in Virginia where I signed it the hospital Personnel they're just used to looking after that notarization. [And], if it's not there it's going to take them a little bit longer to figure out. But yes, we do have to follow this so then I do recommend that, BUT, don’t let that slow you down from actually doing it. Don't let that be the excuse that you haven't signed it.

 

 

[Suzanne]:                  So, you mentioned the things that come under the umbrella of advanced directives. But, what kind of things can you include in your advance directive that might be a little bit more specific to your advance directive?

 

 

[Dana]:                        Let’s break it down, and let’s talk about each of these things as [they’re] specific to advance directives: So, in the power of attorney, when you're choosing someone to make decisions for you- you can choose what decisions they can make, OR, decisions they can't. So, if you're looking at any form including of my form on our web page or if you buy one at Walmart, or Staples, or whatever, it will have a list of things that your agent can make decisions about doing some things like end-of-life care—

 

For example: They can [either] refuse or consent to many types of Medical Care. [For instance], In end-of-life care it might mention authority to decide visitors. And it goes on and on, and you can look through those powers, and decide: Now, I don't want my agent….[…] to have access to this. [Let’s look at] each one of those powers, & explain why it's important. And what happens if you take that power away from your agent- [ie] How will it affect the rest of your document. And so, you have to really think about that. Because, if you removed some of those powers from your agent, (then,) it makes your agent not able to really do his or her job! So, I do recommend you, if you don't use my form, at least, look at that part of the form where it talks about the powers of the agent. And what they mean, when we're looking at a Medical Directive- ----that's [the] medical directive-- that's when you really get into the nitty-gritty and lots of options. In the beginning, in the introduction, I talked about, you know, doctors, (and) hospitals that I would not want to work with, if I'm in a crisis. And, they’re looking at either putting me in seclusion or restraint, or giving me (you) a medication to calm you down. What can they do, rather than those things? [So], when I'm looking at seclusion and restraint, is there anything in my past that would make that counterproductive? Do I have any experience in my past where seclusion and restraint would actually make the situation better, --not that I think those things ever make the situation better—But, if I have certain people I want to visit me, or not visit me, when I'm hospitalized, I can put that in there. I can-- when I talk about a medical directive- But I also want to be very clear, that medical includes: healthcare, (medical), physical health care, as well as mental health care. [And], in Virginia, we don't have what's called a psychiatric advance directives, exactly, - I THINK were the first state in the nation- and, Virginia I don't know if you know if we're still the only one?- We decided on an integrated advance directive, rather than, having a psychiatric advance directive totally separate from your health care, because, basically for most of us are head is attached to our body and, so why have psychiatric care that is only, a separate document from the document that talks about the rest of our Healthcare. Here's the thing in a medical directive: (You) put anything in there that is important to you when it comes to your health and well-being, even if you don't think it can be followed. So, for instance, what if what really CALMS me down if I'm in a crisis, and I'm really upset, and I may be in danger of hurting myself, or somebody else- Well, maybe, for someone it's smoking marijuana, and hey, I can put that in my document! It doesn't mean that they're going to give me marijuana, BUT, it tells the medical professionals: Okay, this is something she uses in this is something that is calms me down, maybe it’s…playing with my rattlesnake, you know, I really, you know, …playing with my rattlesnake calms me down and keeps me from hurting other people […] maybe they know, pet therapy might work for me. Medical professionals (have that) information. [And], even if it's not something that they can do for me, you think of your medical directive as your voice.

 

Think about a time when you met with a doctor for the first time all those questions they have free will if you're not able to answer those questions let your medical director is be your voice in a situation and give that doctor or those medical professionals as much information as possible about you and what works for you. Because you're the expert on your own body and your own health care. So, take that seriously!

 

[Virginia]:                   So, take it to the psychiatric piece, a little bit, a lot of the work I do have to do with those who are in Inpatient Hospital Settings, and, a lot of those folks have issues with their medication, etc. And, some of them have even been to court, ordered to take certain kinds of psychotropic medication that they don't necessarily like. If somebody has an advanced directive and they use that to guarantee that they are never going to be given say help, under any circumstance?

 

 

[Dana]:                        No. If there is any medication in that family, that say […], I do not give consent to it. Now, in the future the doctor at that point can only give that medication to me ,or that family member. They give medications to me, if there's an emergency situation. And, that is the only medication that will work in that emergency situation. Or, there is a court order. And, a court order will trump the advance directive, however, and will know that that is my preference that and I not take that drug. I do recommend when people say that they refused to give consent to certain medication TO PUT why. Is it the side effect? You know, and what side effect(s)? And, they may be at a point where that is going to truly be the best medication for what's wrong with [them]. And they can give me another medication to to deal with the nausea part of it. So, I always put why you don't want them to take the medication what side effect is it that you don't want to deal with? And also if it hasn't worked for you in the past, you may want to make sure that they know that—remember-- this person is speaking for you, when you can’t, and a doctor is always going to ask you what what medications have you tried for this in the past. and you know did they work for you, and all that.

 

                                     

 

[Suzanne]:                  We talked a little bit about how Virginia can be different from other states in the way that we structured our advance directives. And we talked about how you, if you go to, ‘anywhere State,’ I think we mentioned that your advance directive would still be honored there. How does that how does that work? If you're if you're crossing state lines with an advance directive?

 

[Dana]:                        So, other states will honor it, but …And here's the thing or something because they're different laws other states may have different requirements so for example friend of mine was going to have surgery in Georgia that's what the specialist was she was going to go down there she already have an advance directive for Virginia she had me look at Georgia law to see what was required we went ahead and went ahead and Drew up another advance directive for her following Georgia law the only reason we did that was just because their law was so specific and would have required in the advance directive that we want to just go ahead and meet all those requirements are there was no question about whether they have to follow it wasn't he had to you know didn't have to go to their lawyer didn't have to go through all those who we met all the requirements for Georgia do for people who are just vacationing. You know you don't have to do that you know every state you're going to a vacation to follow it it just may be a little bit slower for them to realize that you know this is kind of Virginia when you see and it wasn't valid when it was signed in Virginia and the notary is the big one that's that's usually the difference between Virginia, and, another state I'm in.

 

                                    Now, going to other countries I have no idea how this would work and you need emergency treatment of some sort and they need someone to consent to that treatment very very happy to see that they have a name phone number address the email to get in touch with somebody regardless of what their law is really happy to know who do I call for this person deal with law later but let's deal with the emergency now

 

 

[Virginia]:                   Yeah. So…in terms of letting somebody either domestic or abroad know about your advance directives how can you do that how can you make it available to the people who are going to need it? For both, I guess routinely and an emergency?

 

[Dana]:                        So, how do I look for stuff Virginia has a free service for ADVANCE DIRECTIVES? [Good Question!] Virginia you need to look up that website for me, please. [Pause- Virginia looks up the website!]

                                   

[Dana]:                        I should have it in my head and I just don't know! When you register your advance directive with them they will send you a card that you carry with your identification. And it says that you have an advanced directive and it says how to get in get a copy of it or to see it showing you know nowadays the rescue squad that comes to an emergency situation has a computer on board and they're able to look it up and they can contact you or agent in your power of attorney before you even make it to the hospital whenever they're ready to make decisions and signed documents and all that sort of thing. It is [called]: connect virginia.org. It's all spelled out connect virginia.org / I don’t know if I’d pronounce that well enough. That stands for advance directive- Advance directive registry, for people who carry purses, obviously; If you go to that website we mentioned earlier an advance directive, [hard copy]. Or, they have a wallet-size advance directive that you can carry with you. OR, another way that you can let people know that you have an advance directive is a USB drive! And, people I've seen them into different formats that looks like the medical alert bracelet- you know, that snake thing on there, that shows that have medical (info) and it snaps apart. And there's a USB drive that goes and it has put your medical information. I've also seen those in a minute what looks like a plastic credit card. And, I believe it or not even though it's flat you can pull it out and there's a small thing you stick in the USB drive. And it’ll have all that information on it. I've also seen people wear a lanyard around their neck, and (with) the medical symbol, so people know you can put on an index card. “I have an advance directive in case of emergency, call this person.” and that's good enough- You can, in your smartphone—Is it still called a smartphone??- unless you have a flip phone look for that that way you can most phones, now, that app called i c e and that stands for in case of emergency. And, you of the open up that app it'll how do you put beer on your doctor's name your medical information and you can also upload your advance directive into that app so those are always to let people know also once you've done your advance directive you want to make sure that all of your doctors have a copy and you can even register it with your local hospital or hospitals, then, you don't have to wait to see a patient you just go to the registration, and, you say, “I'd like to put my advance directive on file”. And this document doesn’t work in secrecy! People have to know about it so you have to be to get that out there you want your agent to have a copy of people like a case manager or if it's an educational power of attorney family friends or anybody that you want to know book this is what I want done if I'm ever in an emergency situation while I never not able to make my own decisions you want people to know this is what this is what I want happen whatever you do don't hide it don't put it in your in your bedside table, don't stick it in your family bible, don't put it in your safe deposit box,—okay-- You can put The Originals in those places, that's fine, but you want to make sure people have copies, and as you're making these copies, and, you're giving them out. You know, you want to make sure you're keeping track of who gets because you're one of the changes in the future you know when I say that I promote Suzanne I want you know everybody to know that I made those changes.

 

[Suzanne]:                  So, if you do want to make those changes how do you go about doing that or maybe even if you have an advance directive, and want to get rid of it entirely??

 

 

[Dana]:                        So, you can result your Advanced Directive and by that, you just do a                                             written document- saying that you revoke it. That's the safest way. I                                  mean   You could do that verbally but it's safer to do it in writing and remember                          that list of copies that you made you want to let everybody know the                                         copies, but let everybody know that it is revoked. By the way, that 1 way that                                           most people change their advance directive is just write a new one! So,                                      that your newest advance directive is the one that is valid. We want to let                                   people know that you've done that because if you don't let doctor a                                            know that doctor a still following your old one and maybe trying to reach                                               Hannah who's now in Africa and you know she can't get the phone call so                                 you want to make sure people know about

 

 

[Virginia]:       We also have resources for those who are interested in learning more if you go to our             website dlcv. Or, we have an entire support decision-making for mentioned as well as just a gorgeous video series that Dana [Traynum, herself!] starred in that is our, “Ask the Expert,” series on advance directives!

 

[Virginia]:                   So, Dana as always it's been real and it's been fun and it's been real fun!

 

 

 

[Dana]:                                                            It’s fun for me too I have to say that you guys are                                                                             now     tapped out every single bit of knowledge                                                                              that I have in my brain, so…

 

[Suzanne]:

                                                I don't know what to think of something and it might be a                                                               situation where we just cultivated over time really think I                                                   could you look into this one top and then it a year will be like you know Dana we know you know a lot about this one topic so [….] but Dana hopefully we will see you and your chickens again in the very near future thank you so much for coming and now a DLCVOral health, meaning care for our teeth and gums, is a very important part of overall health and well-being.  dLCV is excited to let you know that Virginia Medicaid now offers full dental benefits to its adult members!   Adults with full Medicaid benefits can now obtain

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[Virginia]:                               Thank you once again that to Dana Traynham senior staff attorney KNOWER of all things for just giving us the once-over on advance directives so much do and think about when it comes to advance directives they are one of my favorite things that we do a deal CV they were my, (sort of) gateway drug into disability rights! So, if anybody's interested, again, I highly recommend going on our website and learning more or making one yourself!

 

 

[Suzanne]:      Absolutely! and we are especially grateful to Dana for joining us once again I'm sure she's sick of us but will never be sick of her. And thank you ALL, for listening to this episode of Rights here right now brought to you by the disability Law Center of Virginia or available on Apple podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts! Don't forget to subscribe and leave a review!

 

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[Virginia]:                               Until next time, I'm Virginia Pharis.

 

 [Suzanne]:                             And I’m Suzanne Herbst! And this has been, Rights Here,

 

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